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Some jerk says Mobile Safari is today’s IE6.

On Cult of Mac they’re talking about Peter-Paul Koch, of some site called QuirksMode, who says:

“The iPhone has become an obsession. If we don’t pay attention, we’ll have a mobile web that only works on the iPhone. And then we’ll have the real mobile web that wasn’t made by us and doesn’t give a shit about web standards and best practices. Worse, it seems web developers are happy with this state of affairs.”

This would be like when everybody coded for the execrable Internet Explorer 6, a move which haunts the world to this very day. Koch says that if this trend of iPhone-specific coding continues, we’ll be screwed down the line, and that we’ll have millions of goddamn developers crying for Mobile Safari to be killed, just like everyone’s currently doing for IE.

I’d like to say it’s a fair point, that if people get used to coding for a browser with no plugin support, one that runs the web much more slowly than a desktop or laptop can, that we’ll see a dearth of interesting sites, because they’ll be tailored for the limited range of functionality the browser offers, that people will eschew not just Flash but plugins of any kind — because Mobile Safari doesn’t support any of the things, crapdamn it — that we’ll essentially get used to seeing the web as a significantly narrower experience than we do today, but I won’t, because you know what? There’s a major flaw in Koch’s argument. Namely: Internet Explorer is made by Microsoft, and Mobile Safari is made by Apple.

Your move, Pandaman.

  1. Magic Toaster
    February 9, 2010 at 11:20 am

    The difference is that when sites are coded for IE 6 they’re usually coded to work just with IE. While sites coded for Mobile Safari are also coded for desktop browsers so it works great on your computer as well on your iPhone, just like your blog.

  2. February 9, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    Nice response but do you actually code any html or css?
    That is the question?

    In my mind there is no difference between Microsoft and Apple trying to make it an industry standard how things look and function in their browsers.
    In my mind they both suck. One sucks more then the other but the other (apple) learned from the bully on what not to do.
    Great, Apple does not like flash and my iphone does not like it.

    It does not matter because at the end of the day it is people like me slicing and writing the xhtml making it work.
    I have to explain to some designer that his flash menu will work in Ie 6-8, Firefox, Safari, Opera but not on the Iphone. Now it will not work on the Ipad either. So now we have to build another site to work with that too.
    So now apple says what can be used and what cannot.

    Sounds like Microsoft to me.

    They all suck and where one is good the other browser is not and so on and so forth.

    Like I said at the end of the day it is people like me doing the work to make it work.



  3. Max Savin
    February 10, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    The big difference is that Safari is based on WebKit, an OPEN SOURCE browser engine. IE6 took on a more proprietary method so that Microsoft could force people to use their product (which hurt everyone). With WebKit, on the other hand, if people don’t like the direction where Apple is taking the web, they could just build off it themselves and keep the wheel turning. No need to start over.

  4. Alex
    July 17, 2010 at 9:47 am

    Terrible article – actually this sounds like a bad state of affairs and as a designer I can see how Mobile Safari could be dangerous. I’m an Apple fanboy myself (typing this on an iPhone in a Safari formatted webpage).

    Simply saying it won’t happen because Apple make Safari is naive and stupid. In universities the big thing is coding an iPhone website along a regular one. It would really be just as easy to make it mobile (instead of iPhone) and then iPhone, Android and others would be able to Enders the page just fine.

    Just my 2 pennies 🙂

  1. February 9, 2010 at 5:03 pm

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