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Apple is NOT still stealing from Xerox!

So that colossal asshat Victor Champ, who I hate almost as much as Arrrrrrington, has some goddamn irritating post up talking about Cult of Mac’s reference to an article written by those PARC guys, who may or may not have inspired my close, personal friend Steve Jobs when he created the first ever GUI in the history of the world.

The through-line of the article is that the PARC guys were crazy-mindreaders, somehow intuiting the amazing future plans of Steve 20 years ago, and how they’re basically predicting what Steve’s next moves will be. Which would be pretty incredible if true. But Champ, that clod, that useless sack of nothing, he has a different interpretation: he’s trying to paint Steve as a coach who’s stolen the playbook of a better coach, working through the plays with no understanding of what he’s doing:

That’s one way to look at it, sure. Another way to look at it is that it’s amazing that Steve Jobs is following a 20-year old script written by someone else, and he seems to building his business entirely on the backs of the people at PARC, who actually have the good ideas.He’s like some kind of stylish ventriloquist’s dummy; sure, he says some neat things, but they all come from somewhere else.

This makes me so angry, I can hardly finish my Scotch. The nerve you have, Champ, you inimaginable waste. How do you find the will to make it through the day without throwing yourself off of a goddamn bridge? You pansy. You fairy. You company man. How deep is Ballmer’s tongue in your anus, you horror? Is he tasting your food instead of you?

Who ever told you you could work with men?

You disgust me, Victor Champ, and worse than that, you insult the honour of a beautiful, wonderful man. You insult Steve.

I know that putting out a contract on your fuzzy little life would be an over-reaction, but can somebody remind me exactly why? Because I hate this bastard so much he makes me want to vomit down his throat.

Shut up, Victor. Shut up.

  1. John
    March 18, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    I see somebody has watched Glengarry Glen Ross.

  2. March 19, 2010 at 7:52 pm


  3. March 23, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    LOL about the Steve Ballmer imagery.

    Details of Apple Copied Xerox / Parc myth:

    • Octopoid
      November 24, 2010 at 4:14 am

      Firstly, that website is subtitled “Apple iPhone, iPad, iPod News, Celebrity Mac Users, and More” – not exactly a fair unbiased source of apple related news.

      Secondly, if you actually take the time to read all of that drivel, it simply states that Apple DID copy the GUI and the mouse from Xerox / Parc – they just didn’t “steal” it. They payed $1,000,000 (in stock) in the early 80’s for the rights to copy the tech.

      And that’s it really. Apple did not steal the GUI, but they did not create it either. As with most things tech, it was bought. Not that it really matters. The GUI was such a simple and obvious concept, it was just a matter of who would try and make it workable first. Cue tech companies suing each other for “stealing” the “copyrighted” layout of a few buttons for the rest of time.

  4. April 12, 2010 at 10:48 am

    Those without a good argument resort to name calling… I’m just sayin. Another thing I’m just saying… someones got a little religious grade hero worship.

    I don’t know anybody that actually claimed Apple stole from Xerox unless it was in response to someone claiming Microsoft stole from Apple. Look, companies share IP, its a common practice. Companies encroach on others IP, I don’t know of a big tech company that ISN’T guilty of it. Its not a matter of morals. If Apple hadn’t pushed the GUI front, who knows how far behind we’d be. Would we still be hitting F1, F2, F3 to access menu items? If Microsoft hadn’t developed their OS, people would be accusing IBM or Sun of stealing Apples GUI. The idea of GUIs had been kicking around for DECADES before that. It wasn’t that Xerox built it and demonstrated the technology, though I’m sure that help, computers just advanced to that capability. You know how much a PARC computer cost back THEN? Nobody would have payed for that, Apple brought GUI cost effective, IF they got inspiration for Xerox, GOD FORBID SOMEONE IS INSPIRED! I’m sure Microsoft got inspiration from someone (Apple or someone else). There is near NO technology that a company just invented out of nowhere. Its rare that an idea is TRULY original. Its almost always an improvement of an older idea. Its a good thing, its human, its how our society and technology grows. Its important to protect a new innovation to recoup the cost of development, the “look and feel” of a GUI is not an innovation, and you have to patent it to protect it. You can’t patent the whole thing (though I’m sure it happens) you have to patent each mechanism, and I use mechanism intentionally because it has to have a function. You can patent methods of operation, and formula, but you can’t patent that you use icons or menus whether its on a computer or a phone, thats absurd.

  5. wat
    September 10, 2011 at 11:06 am

    no, it isnt funny at all, go die on a fucking fire

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